[Nvda-dev] renaming of navigator object
Lubos Pintes
lubos.pintes at orangemail.sk
Tue Dec 29 08:48:21 UTC 2009
Hi again,
I am reading this discussion and I completely agree with Roberto. The
object navigation in current state is often confusing, sometimes I have
problems to find something. Object list or some kind of hierarchical
navigation would be very useful. I don't thing about the new dialog, but
about perhaps rethinking of object navigation to bring some system to
it. I thing, that many user refuse to use NVDA because of difficulty to
learn the object navigation.problems
Dňa 28.12.2009 18:53, Roberto Pérez de Paz wrote / napísal(a):
> Hi Mic:
>
> We don't need a simple change of names only, the complete change of
> approach in the object navigation system is that we need. The actual
> system used is not very useful for common users. I propose to make a
> simple list to put the objects in flow like objects list used in firefox
> even using NVDA +F7. We could use the up arrow and down arrow keys to
> move along this list. For every object we could provide common actions
> as activating, left button mouse click, right button mouse click... This
> is an alternative to the best system proposed in
> http://www.nvda-project.org/ticket/58.
>
> About to your original question I think NVDA cursor is the most
> apropriate name.
>
> please, sorry for my English.
>
> Regards,
>
> Roberto.
>
> El 27/12/2009 21:51, Michael Curran escribió:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> To simplify the understanding of NVDA for new users, I would like to
>> rename the navigator object to something else.
>> Major reasons why the current situation is confusing are:
>> * The navigator object isn't really one specific object, its really
>> the object the user has currently navigated to.
>> * Navigating by object, and navigating by text inside an object have
>> two different names (navigator object, and review cursor).
>>
>> Some ideas:
>> * Rename the navigator object to the Review cursor (the Review cursor
>> would then be used both for moving by object, and through an object's
>> text).
>> * Rename the navigator object and review cursor to the NVDA cursor.
>> Noting that it would be more resembling the voiceOver cursor, rather
>> than perhaps the Jaws cursor.
>>
>> What are peoples' thoughts on this?
>>
>> I am also working on filtering out pointless objects from object
>> navigation, in a local branch, which is already looking promicing.
>>
>> I'm hoping these changes will make object navigation in NVDA a little
>> more useful, and perhaps a little more widely used.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mick
>>
>
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